Nov 5, 2009
*Excerpt below is from: Today's False Prophets and the Elijah List / posted @ Heisnear.com on Nov 5, 2009 / ~Rob Conrad
A Word by the Spirit to Believers in America:
A major example of today's self-serving Church Leaders, flashy TV ministries and failed 'prophets' is now occurring in America. Since the economic collapse 14 months ago in Mid-Sept '08 many of today's 'money-changer' TV Ministers and Church leaders are having their 'tables turned over' in losing their church buildings and even their congregations.
Why? Because many of America's Ministers, church Pastors and so-called 'prophets' have borrowed from the BANK over the last 20 years to 'buy or build a church' saying 'God told them to'.
However, God did NOT 'tell' them this as they claim. Why? Because it completely opposes His clear and fundamental word
NOT to have ANY 'borrowed debt'. [Deut 28:1-15; Prov 22:7; Rom 13:8].
Worse, is America's indebted-to-the-bank 5-Fold ministers and church leaders then placed that yoke and burden of their own wrongful DEBTS upon God's innocent children, the body of Christ, to pay it off ! This is scandalous on the parts of today's 'prophets' and ministers and is framed as a 'hireling' accor- ding to the Lord. One of their favorite phrases refers to that minister as 'good soil' to plant your tithes and offerings into. As it turns out, many 'money-changer' ministers are being exposed today as having been 'bad soil'.
Brothers-sisters, God is not mocked. More ministers in America will have 'their tables turned over' in 2010, being left with no 'church building', no congregation, but still left with huge existing BANK DEBT(s) attached to their name. Also, ministers with personal BANK DEBTS [for their homes, autos, toys, etc] will reap the same kind of consequences and difficulties.
Prophetically at this time in America, the Spirit of God intends to remind every believer NOT to engage in ANY more borrowing, at all. Do not be persuaded any longer by today's 'good soil' ministers and 'prophets' who push believers to 'give' while that same church leader or minister has BORROWED himself into BANK DEBT, even living lavishly.
Has God turned His back on His believers in America who made this error of BORROWING from the bank ? Absolutely not. But, the Spirit of God is intending for His people to learn RIGHT NOW from this error, and NOT repeat it. Repent from it, and move forward.
A prime example of today's arrogant and blind 'bad soil' preachers and false prophets who STILL CONTINUE to fleece the flock since Mid-Sept 2008, aired on TBN recently in 2009.
This Pastor boasted about stopping the BANK from repo- ssessing his church buildings because of his inability to pay back his massive 1st borrowed DEBT. How did he do it? He orchestrated a 2nd BANK DEBT. Again, this manipulator continues to disobey God's Word which instructs NOT to be 'enslaved to the lender' [Prov 22:7], and then worse, places his wrongful errors and huge burdens of DEBT upon God's innocent children to pay it off.
This is an exact example of what the Spirit of God is alerting His people now to watch for in today's hirelings. These blind 'money-changers' and hirelings who continue in these schemes will be accountable to God and be exposed in the days ahead as fleecers of the flock and wolves in sheep's clothing.
Here again, America's 5-Fold ministers and these 8 so-called 'prophets' themselves have failed to warn God's people of ANY of this, including God's clear Word which instructs NOT to engage in DEBT.
Instead, they have persisted in preaching their 'prosperity' message for the last 20 years while leaving out the required balance of 'obeying God's word' and 'seeking Him first'. [Math 6:33; Deut 28].
Their negligence, as 'prophets' and 'seers', has helped steer the great losses, confusion and trauma we see occurring un- necessarily today amongst God's people and families in America.
Only false prophets would be this blind and disobedient to God's clear Word and then boldly continue to misdirect the body of Christ in the same way.
Yet, America's Christian TV ministries and these 8 false prophets are STILL heard TODAY filling the body of Christ's ears with their same false prophecies saying 'This is the season of prosperity' and 'America's greatest prosperity is THIS year !'.
This is now proven as total false prophecy which these 8 men and countless other TV ministers and church Pastors have been delivering each year since about 2000. When it didn't happen in each year, these 8 false prophets simply re-applied their pitch to the next year, and the next, and right up through the summer of 2008.
Then, just months before the economic collapse in Mid-Sept 2008 Kim Clement stood boldly on TBN 'prophesying', 'There will be NO RECESSION!'. But, within months, America's biggest economic collapse since the Great Depression kicked in, proving AGAIN, Clement's and all of the other false prophets' major folly pertaining to this particular false 'prophecy'.
Today, after 14 months of economic turmoil with NO relief in sight for America, what can these 8 false prophets and countless other false prophetical voices amongst Evangelicals be heard 'prophesying' to America now?
Have they identified to God's people the error of 'borrowing into DEBT' as just mentioned? NO. Have you heard any of them from the TV airwaves announcing by the Spirit to 'NOT go into DEBT anymore!' ? NO. Have any of these 'prophets' given the true word of the Spirit in the last 14 months that 'Believers must learn from this mistake of 'borrowing', RE- PENT of it and NOT repeat it' ? NO.
TO THE CONTRARY.
In fact, what you're hearing for the last 14 months is the EXACT SAME 'prosperity' message except with their craftily-adjusted phraseology saying, AGAIN, that '2009 is the year God will restore what has been lost!'. Like always and as of this writing [ Nov '09 ] these 8 impostors are already re-applying their phoney 'prosperity coming to America' message to 2010, since it has clearly, again, not happened in 2009. These are complete false prophecies.
The ElijahList.com site shows Clement himself simply 'changed horses' right after the Sept '08 economic collapse with his 'new word' for America saying 'restoration is coming quickly to America in 2009!'. He also suggested that his 'No Reces-sion in 2008!' prophecy 'failed' because of unbelief and/or sin on the body of Christ's part from 'not believing the prophet'.
This is as desperate and manipulating as it comes. Why? Because it falsely accuses the brethren as being the blame for Clement's own failings and false prophecies. In fact, Clement's countless failed prophecies talked about here were not spoken by him 'conditionally'. But, were black and white unconditional forecasts under his prime guise as a 'prophet'.
Clement's recent implying that 'believers' might be faulted for his failed prophecies matches today's 'money-changers' who, after wrongfully going into DEBT, also cast their self-created financial burdens upon God's innocent people.
As the rest of this letter even more emphatically confirms with scriptures and facts, these 8 false prophets and other so-called 'prophets' promoted at the ElijahList have absolutely NO CLUE about what God is wanting to 'say or do' in America. This also pertains to the largest scope prophetically on the global scale, of which they are 100% blind to.
Dec 28, 2009
*Excerpt below is from: 2010 Ahead: Next End Time Events and America's Future / posted @ Heisnear.com on Dec 28, 2009 / ~Rob Conrad
What is God's specific 'Word' to America right now ?
1) REPENT. IT IS TIME NOW to turn away fully from all worldliness and ungodliness in our speech, lives and charac- ter. And to embrace the Lord 100%, being a Christlike reflection of Him and His nature of love, peace, kindness towards all others. This is what sets ourselves apart from the world and proves ourselves as being real Christians. [John 13:34,35; Romans 8:14]
This is also vital since 'maintaining our testimony' is a KEY PROOF inside the coming 7 Year Tribulation of true Christians who have remained strong and upright before God even in the face of the most horrific, hateful and turbulent times in history which are coming just ahead. [Rev 6:9]
2) No more Bank-Borrowed DEBTS or LOANS
Although today's flashy TV ministers and false prophets are NOT saying this at all in America, it is most definitely the word of the Lord to believers in America. God's Word is clear about having NO DEBTS and to NOT engage in BANK-BORROWED loans and DEBT. It results in bondage, enslavement. [Proverbs 22:7; Deut 28, Romans 13:8].
America's ECONOMIC implosion starting in Mid-Sept '08 was caused by Americans, not God, who placed themselves into DEBT, which opposes God's Word. Many who had 'wooden idols' (their newly bought homes by Bank loans) and have 'toys' [ie. cars, boats, etc] had to learn the hard way in the last 15 months about idols and DEBT. But, God is greater than your DEBTS and errors, IF we recognize our mistakes, then REPENT of it.
More 'tables will be turned over' in 2010 of Christian Ministries and Church Pastors who continually push towards BANK-BORROWED LOANS-DEBTS, and then worse, place the yoke and burden of their mistake upon God's innocent children to pay that wrongful DEBT OFF! For believers (or Christian leaders) who do have current BANK LOANS and DEBTS or house mortgages, then, recognize your mistake right now, REPENT of it, and move on, NOT making that error again. This pleases God.
Many today believe that life's greatest WEALTH is found in the bank. TO THE CONTRARY. Life's greatest WEALTH is spiritual and found in the soul of the person who has the fulness of Christ overflowing from within. This is a person who has EVERYTHING. Including greater wealth than all of the weath found in this world.
